Curse

Gli · Dec 27, 2005, 07:36 PM // 19:36

I do prefer using Victory is Mine! as the elite. With that, I hardly ever have to use Healing Signet. Not even while fighting trolls while I have Elemental Resistance up. I only need it when the monotony gets to me and I forget refreshing a defense for a few seconds and start taking real damage.

The advantage is, you can heal while fighting and don't lose 40 armor for 2 seconds every few seconds.

pbspectre · Dec 27, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47

nice build...anyone know of a decent w/mo build for this?...

mohh · Dec 27, 2005, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Just watched the video a few times, boy you make getting there look easy. Can the hex helm be crafted or is it a collector thing only?

Manic Smile · Dec 27, 2005, 08:02 PM // 20:02

First I want to say thanks to the posters of this...great idea. (Hell might be a better word)

10 strait solo runs as of this post, no deaths, no sword...

Did some tweaking of the build kind and found this very successful, slower perhaps but I pretty much never die...ele boss spawn, following wises or ardants, shadows, bad spawns...it's all laughably easy. One one real problem; when the last group of Avacari are mixed in with the first group of Imps...only successfully done it once. Just run though all of it with charge and Ele Resist until the Avacari close in on you for the physical attack, hit sprint then try to wait the hexes out with a Lieutenants Helm, don't heal sig just keep moving. Anyway my stat spred.

War/Me

Insp: 5
St: 12(7 with Lieutant's Helm)
Axe: 11
Tac: 12
3 points wasted

Skills:

Sprint
Charge
Des Blow
Exe Strike
Watch Yourself
Ele Resis
Dolyak Sig
Heal Sig

Gear:

Exe Helm Sup Axe Master (for attacking)
Lieutant's Helm (no sup runes on then for running)

Glad's Chest(for mana)
Glad's Legs(for mana)

Ascalon Boots(for absorption)
Ascalon Gloves(If you don't care for matching go platemail for more def)

Weapon:

Max Axe with +7 ele defence and double adrenal on hit(don't need zealious)
Crimson Carapace

I'd just show photos of all this crap if I had any room left to upload photos

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Originally Posted by kvndoom

Avicara you can run by (and you just GOTTA show me a video of your build that can survive Iron Mist, Phantom Pain, Ineptitude, and Fragility on you ALL AT ONCE when you run into Thunderwing's bunch, and still kill them all whilst getting pounded with Lightning Orb, Deadly Swarm, and sword and bow attacks. I need to see it!!!). Giants are a joke, I took the "scenic route" once and ran into 8 of them and killed them all without a pause (with Dolyak and WY up, Giant Stomp does 25 damage, their rocks only do 0-1 damage each. Can't imagine how that killed you). Trolls, you just bleed them from the onset and keep them bleeding and hope DB lands a deep wound. Heal only when taking that chance means life or death.

I've done it multiple times...Charge into him with Ele resistance on...Deadly Swarm does 4 damage lmao...lightening does somehting like 130 dmg I think, the Lieutenants Helm takes care of the rest(NO SUP RUNES ON)...when the rest catch up from the slow down hit sprint to cancel the Ele Resis as you don't need it any longer and physical is your problem then just keep trying to run away...dont' stop to heal yourself just keep going and pray...every time I have made it I've had like 10 to 30 life, I have screens to prove it if you need.

Trolls are cake...just make sure to use heal sig RIGHT after they savage and you're good to go. I've killed two trolls while being attacked by that damn octapuse thing, 7ish imps and 4 shadows...just spam heal sig constantly, spam defenses constantly be on the look out for savage slases and use a weapon skill to cancel out your heal/defensive skills so it's canceled instead...you know doble click. I think I had the blessing on at the time...don't know if I could do two trolls without it. I have done all that with one troll without the blessing and I had dead people in game if you need proof.

K jacked some space from my gf...

Route:

Part A. http://static.flickr.com/42/78149137_c397c7ada2_o.jpg

Part B. http://static.flickr.com/39/78149138_1445c08193_o.jpg

note: take the bottom route...it's easier

here's me living through that ele boss and with a previous, inferior build...

http://static.flickr.com/39/78150136_0a6d9aa6d2_o.jpg

with the build posted here I usualy have 30ish+ life...just keep on running.

here's me actually farming...

http://static.flickr.com/6/78150137_12b320eca0_o.jpg

note: the dead guys is good but having some lag issues

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohh

Just watched the video a few times, boy you make getting there look easy. Can the hex helm be crafted or is it a collector thing only?

Henge of Devrai

Lieutenant's Helm

Witchblade · Dec 27, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

I assume the sword Galie was refering too was the candy cane sword, not the IDS.

lol y .. i forgot those items

N8DOGG · Dec 27, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Nice Job

I also can solo with a War/Me But I use an axe and I don't bring charge. I can make it to the cave just as fast as you did with charge and sprint. I then have an elite attack skill for the imps. It takes about 4 hits with my axe skills per imp so the bleeding helps but isn't necessary. Also there was on part where you followed the road and you could have just cut through the trees and avoided one of the groups. I enjoyed your video very much good work.

also are you the guy in the Leroy Video? Sounds just like you LEEEEEEEROOOOOOY!!!!!

N8

yangster · Dec 27, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

My guildmate and I finally got one today. He got the first 2 and I got the 3rd, that bastard. Anyways, I'm keeping this one and if I get another one, I'll just sell it for whatever that person is willing to pay for it.

xxreaper008 · Dec 27, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by yangster

My guildmate and I finally got one today. He got the first 2 and I got the 3rd, that bastard. Anyways, I'm keeping this one and if I get another one, I'll just sell it for whatever that person is willing to pay for it.

the only way il sell an ids is if i have one for my slef. Will you do moredmg if u add a fierysword hilt?

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Originally Posted by noblepaladin

I'm not trying to single you out, but I got something to say about the pricing of the IDS. I hope you end up getting one for yourself .

I have been selling my IDS swords for 60k each, and they usually sell in less than 2 minutes. Most of my customers seem very satisfied and one of them even said he will keep buying them from me at 60k a piece if I get more. I can get 75k for them if I have the patience to go around all the towns spamming, which I have done once, but I'd rather continue playing. The sword itself isn't spectacular. It's essentially the same as the Droknar Weapon guy's sword with an Icy hilt which cannot be removed. However, almost everybody wants it for the coolness factor (ecto should be worth 100g each, their merchant value, since Fissure armor does not improve your fighting ability in any way, but that's never going to happen), which is why Granite Citadel is full of people spamming LFG IDS. After some people figured out a solo build (Wa/Me), ANet nerfed the drop rate so even soloist have to do something like 5 runs to get one of them (according to many reports on the forums and my personal experience). For people who cannot solo, they must join 5-6 man farm groups, and at the rate of one sword for the party every 4-5 runs, it takes about 20 runs for someone to get one (and it takes a very long time each run). It's much more economical to pay prices as high as 80k than to spend two days doing IDS runs, because 80k can be made RELATIVELY quickly with some of the known farming builds posted around the forums. For example, it's possible to do 4 Mountain Troll runs faster than an IDS run (it takes me about 5-7 minutes for a troll run). Even if I make a extremely modest estimation of 1k per run (you probably make 2k-3k just in gold drops and selling items to merchant), that is 80k gold already, not counting the chance of getting some really good rare item.

Simply ignoring what the IDS does for a moment: Many people are willing to do IDS runs all day to get one. Just that fact alone makes the item very valuable, because they can save hours of time if they buy it. You can think these people are crazy, and maybe they are, but that is the reason why the IDS is worth so much (the same is true for Ecto and Shards, Fissure armor is more worthless than the IDS, which at least has the perfect 15>50 mod, but it's worth well over a million gold).

Nicely put, could have said it better myself

Manic Smile · Dec 27, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxreaper008

Will you do moredmg if u add a fierysword hilt?

Hilt is static.

kvndoom · Dec 27, 2005, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic Smile

I've done it multiple times...Charge into him with Ele resistance on...Deadly Swarm does 4 damage lmao...lightening does somehting like 130 dmg I think, the Lieutenants Helm takes care of the rest(NO SUP RUNES ON)...when the rest catch up from the slow down hit sprint to cancel the Ele Resis as you don't need it any longer and physical is your problem then just keep trying to run away...dont' stop to heal yourself just keep going and pray...every time I have made it I've had like 10 to 30 life, I have screens to prove it if you need.

Oh no you said you could KILL everything, that's what I wanted to see. If you could solo kill that group, hell I'd give you one of my swords just for proving it.

I get by him almost all the time now too, 2 HP was my lowest to escape with. Ugh. 575 health to 2 in less than 15 seconds.

kvndoom · Dec 27, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by N8DOGG

Nice Job

I also can solo with a War/Me But I use an axe and I don't bring charge. I can make it to the cave just as fast as you did with charge and sprint.

That's BS, unless you have a 20-second Sprint that we don't know about. With Charge and Sprint, I'm moving at 125% speed 100% of the time. Sprint at max lasts for 14 seconds, 13 without a major / superior rune, so you're moving 125% speed 70% of the time tops, and likely 65% unless you're risking the health loss of a non-minor rune. When you can prove that one takes no more time than the other, the world has a Noble Prize in Mathematics waiting for you.

Manic Smile · Dec 27, 2005, 10:50 PM // 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvndoom

Oh no you said you could KILL everything, that's what I wanted to see. If you could solo kill that group, hell I'd give you one of my swords just for proving it.

I get by him almost all the time now too, 2 HP was my lowest to escape with. Ugh. 575 health to 2 in less than 15 seconds.

yea if i'm unlucky enough to lag there and get cliped some by the war or mezs running at me it can get downright nasty....but I GOT A SWORD...YAY on my 11th run. And Kill them...er...um...no.

Riceboi · Dec 27, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic Smile

Hilt is static.

I think he's asking if a fiery sword hilt would do more damage to the ice imps?
I think it would, but I've never tried it so I'm not sure how much more.

Hodor · Dec 27, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11

I use 16 sword with Hundred+Galrath+Final. 11 strength and 9 tactics. As long as you position your self to get maximum effect from Hundred, this mows down Imps very quickly. Usually the last few Imps only need a casually swipe and they are dead

I can kill the Ice Beast without interupts. I swap my hat for max health on the run though.
I've found what I lose on the run with only one 12 sec sprint gets made up easily kill the Imps quickly.

Valdis · Dec 27, 2005, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by xxreaper008

Nicely put, could have said it better myself

Did you mean could or couldn't? lol

Witchblade · Dec 28, 2005, 12:12 AM // 00:12

well tks for the few tips around here, i managed to get a 2nd sword today

aw, looks so good

badd · Dec 28, 2005, 12:26 AM // 00:26

well, anyone got any pointers for killing azure shadows so i can get those imps back there :/

Sir Skullcrasher · Dec 28, 2005, 12:33 AM // 00:33

snowballs and snowcones my friend!

Either that or a MM or SS or a echo nuking ele to blow those shadown to pieces!

badd · Dec 28, 2005, 12:36 AM // 00:36

...... i solo

Hodor · Dec 28, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by badd

well, anyone got any pointers for killing azure shadows so i can get those imps back there :/

Get +3 regen by kneeling for Lyssa, then try to pick them off 1-2 at a time. Move forward slowly, stopping often, when one pops up just wait for it to come to you. Heal often